Ben quickly interrupted his guest and weighed in: “It’s not us that you need to feel sorry for, it’s out viewers.”
However Lord Grade wasn’t to be deterred as he hit back: “Your viewers, I’m delighted to hear the high numbers, I wish the numbers were as high as that when I was at ITV [laughs],
“Your viewers have access not just to – you’re not the only source of information and news to those viewers.”
When Ranvir and Ben continued to quiz their guest on the government’s stance, Lord Grade branded it “arrogant” for the show to expect a government minister to appear no matter, as Ranvir put it, “how hard the questions might be”.
